Just looking at my local paper and seen a ad for firewood at $80.00 a pulp cord.Around here a pulp cord is 4 ft. x 4 ft. x 8 ft. At this price why cut my own. I am calling him as soon as I get done telling you about the deal.It is in Central Wi.The web site is wausaudailyherald.com (sorry do not know how to attach link) Look in the classifieds under wood on 3-8-08.Sorry to all of you in the rest of the country,but again this is in Central Wi. Maybe you can use the ad to negoiate a price in you area.Well got to go and call him before it is gone.
Wood $80.00 a Pulp Cord
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Around here pulp woods are soft woods mostly used to make newspaper... and they're mostly some kind of pine/evergreen. Not that I'm against burning soft woods but pine is tricky cause the tars and resins can cause over firing of your heating plant.
40 a chord is a good price though...I suppose the pulp wood could be Aspen as well...that's a safer burn than pine.
40 a chord is a good price though...I suppose the pulp wood could be Aspen as well...that's a safer burn than pine.
I do believe that is a face cord. Most folks in Michigan just do not know what a cord of wood is. They sell a cord, but it is just a face (rick) cord.
As for the pulp, it probably is popple, better known as gopher wood. Put a few splits in the stove and quickly gopher more. Burns fast, no coals. Need about twice the amount of wood compared to oak to get the same amount of heat. That is why you should cut your own and be a little selective on what you are cutting.
As for the pulp, it probably is popple, better known as gopher wood. Put a few splits in the stove and quickly gopher more. Burns fast, no coals. Need about twice the amount of wood compared to oak to get the same amount of heat. That is why you should cut your own and be a little selective on what you are cutting.
I'm burning popple right now. It's useful for taking the oak/hickory coals down to nothing and for shoulder
season burning days.
season burning days.
Right northwinds. We've burned popple a lot during spring and fall, but it isn't ideal during the cold months for sure. But then it can be burned during the daytime if someone is around to tend the stove.
Please all: a cord is a cord is a cord. There is no "pulp cord", no "rick", no "pickup truck load", no "rack", no "face cord", no "banana cord".
1 CORD = 4 FEET BY 4 FEET BY 8 FEET.
Firewood is not sold by weight, or volume. It can be stacked as pulp logs ( 4' long), as log lengths from 8' to 16' +, as CSD ( cut split delivered) wood. It will always be a "pile" 4'x4'x8'. The volume of the actual firewood can range from 80 cubic feet to 100 cubic feet depending on the splits, on the log size, on the method of stacking.
Some states have laws regulating the sale of firewood; Foresters and loggers have other measuring methods for determining the quantity in a load. BUT it is always in cords.
1 CORD = 4 FEET BY 4 FEET BY 8 FEET.
Firewood is not sold by weight, or volume. It can be stacked as pulp logs ( 4' long), as log lengths from 8' to 16' +, as CSD ( cut split delivered) wood. It will always be a "pile" 4'x4'x8'. The volume of the actual firewood can range from 80 cubic feet to 100 cubic feet depending on the splits, on the log size, on the method of stacking.
Some states have laws regulating the sale of firewood; Foresters and loggers have other measuring methods for determining the quantity in a load. BUT it is always in cords.
Well JC did say he was going to call the phone # soon as he posted to inquire about the wood...he should be getting back to us soon. It seems we all have our preconceptions about what a pulp cord is....
Around these parts a pulp cord, also called a bush cord, simply means a cord (4'x4'x8') of log length wood i.e. 8' lengths of varying diameter equalling a cord, nothing to do with species.
It is a standard term in the logging industry, around here anyway.downeast said:
jpl1nh said:
Face............
You men are CORRECT!
Thanks for the Lesson!
$80 Seems cheep now!.......darn.
Sorry it took awhile to get back on line,It is a full cord,4ftx4ftx8ft. I call it a pulp cord because of all the paper mills around here and that is what I was brought up calling a Full cord..I did get ahold of the seller and he is selling full cords at $80.00 and a full cord cut split and delivered for $150.00. The seller said it is all hard wood, Oak and Maple. I am going to go and look at it before I buy because of all the disappointment I have heard about on this site when suppliers say it is one type of wood and ends up being another..
downeast said:
With all due respect, I beg to differ with you just a tad. There definitely is a rick, or face cord of wood. Generally it takes 3 ricks to make a full cord of wood. However, Canada does not recognize this, but in the U.S. it is recognized all over...but perhaps not in your area.
(broken link removed to http://www.woodheat.org/firewood/cord.htm)
EDIT: This is just one source for the rick cord and there are many others. Just happened to have this link quick.
JC said:
That price difference is because pulp means log length wood i.e. not cut and split. Pulp delivered is usually 6-7 cord minimum because that is approximately 1 grapple trailer load. Prices here are the same as he is charging.
Here's a link on firewood measurement:
http://www.canren.gc.ca/prod_serv/index.asp?CaId=161&PgId=857
http://www.canren.gc.ca/prod_serv/index.asp?CaId=161&PgId=857
Not meaning to confuse things more, but cords in the timber industry also may be classified as pulp, bolts, and saw logs. And these definitions are not precise, as they may vary by region, mill, available markets, etc. Generally, pulp cords are roundwood 3-5" in diameter and larger roundwood of poor quality or with defects that make the logs not usable for other than paper pulp. Generally, bolts are 5-8" diameter solid wood, and saw logs are 8" or larger solid wood.
Forestry science, paper industry, sawmills, firewood producers ALL use:
1 cord= 4' X 4' X 8' .
Whatever you want to call it, it is the standard measure. Whether, pulp logs of 4' or 300', veneer logs of any length or diameter,
sawlogs for dimensional lumber for sawmills, or firewood in log length or CSD---it is a cord measure by the volume of the pile.
You want to call it banana cords or an apple, fine. Logs cut from trees are sold harvested in cord measure in North America.
Take a trip to any paper mill, sawmill, or firewood seller's yard. Visit a logging operation, see what they do at a yard. Look how the truck is loaded and measured. Talk to the logger or forester on site.
1 cord= 4' X 4' X 8' .
Whatever you want to call it, it is the standard measure. Whether, pulp logs of 4' or 300', veneer logs of any length or diameter,
sawlogs for dimensional lumber for sawmills, or firewood in log length or CSD---it is a cord measure by the volume of the pile.
You want to call it banana cords or an apple, fine. Logs cut from trees are sold harvested in cord measure in North America.
Take a trip to any paper mill, sawmill, or firewood seller's yard. Visit a logging operation, see what they do at a yard. Look how the truck is loaded and measured. Talk to the logger or forester on site.
To further add confusion, although "cord" typically is the reference, many mills buy logs by weight, not by cord, as it is easier and more accurate to weigh a truckload than to try to measure a cord, and then they use a weight to cord conversion factor, for whatever that may be worth or useful. That conversion factor may be more or less an accurate reflection of cords, and may vary considerably based on MC, as then will the cords derived from the conversion factor.
Well now that JC has reported back I'd have to say that's a pretty good price for hardwood. The fact that you don't have to deal with any limbs or huge rounds makes it attractive from my pov...
...A few times over the years circumstances dictated that I had to buy log loads to process into firewood and I loved working with them as opposed to going in the woods to harvest 'em etc.
...A few times over the years circumstances dictated that I had to buy log loads to process into firewood and I loved working with them as opposed to going in the woods to harvest 'em etc.
I havent called my guy yet for this years load but a 10 cord load of hardwood logs here goes for 800, or 80/cord so about the same.
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