1/3/97 - - Back to List archives
- Back to Club House
1. More THoughts on AOL
2. Good OFF_ Season Coming Up !
1/4/97
1. Hearth Press Release
1/5/97
1. HEARTH Certification
1/7/97
1. Industry Consultant speaks out on HEARTH
2. A reps View on HEARTH
3. Pellet Stove Makers...a lead for you ...
1/9/97
1. POS Programs
2. Cast Iron Mantels
3. Webheads Party if Reno still exists?
1/11/97
1. Rock and Roll
2.Reno Alive and Well
3. Filemaker Pro
4. HEARTH and HPA
1/18/97
1. More on Education - and New Manual published
2. New Product
1/23/97
1.Cawley-LeMay Parts
2. HPA Education Seminars Press Release
Computers...how fast will they go ?
1/23/97
Special We Marketing Issue
1/26/97
1. Pilots of a 45,000 BTU unit that take up to 4 minutes to drop out (thats
a LOT of gas) -- and some that do not drop at ALL.
2. Stoves, Fireplaces that explode the glass
3. Gas Logs that continue to operate when i REMOVE the pilot flame completely
(YES, disconnect it)
4. Logs sooting up houses
1/27/97
1. Warrcor Warranties
2. Austroflamm in Canada
This Months Digest Sponsored by: Travis Industries,
America's premier manufacturer of steel wood, gas & pellet hearth products
exclusively for the Speciality Hearth Retailer. See the NEW LOPI Heritage
Bay, Discovery Fireplace, Avalon Avanti DVS Fireplace and Fireplace Xtrordinair
36DV-R & 32DVS gas products in our Web site. http://hearth.com/travis. Call
1 800 654-1177 or e-mail us at [email protected] for dealer information.
___________________________________________________________________________
Webmasters Note: A footnote on my ramblings about America Online. As if
to prove the point.....note the following:
One of my clients, who receives dozens of leads per week from HearthNet,
emailed me stating they have not seen ANY leads for a few weeks. After spending
a few hours scratching our heads and checking/rechecking, we found that
the problem was with America Onlin. Not only were they not letting mail
get thru, but they were not even sending it back to the sender (the usual
routine). American Online says "We'll work on it after the busy holidays".
So,first, AOL locks out 40% of the web servers on the net - then they waylay
thousands of important emails..and don't tell anyone. What would you do
if the US Post Office acted like this ?
1. My FREE advice to anyone on this list . Get a REAL ISP (Internet Provider)
if you intend to do anything worthwhile on the net.
2. Advice #2...If you are a HearthNet "tenant" and notice a sharp
drop in the number of leads you receive (especially if you have a "form"
on your site), please contact me immediately.
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Happy New Year..... !
A short note on HearthNet in 1997
I would like to thank all the folks who have helped HearthNet. This includes
our "tenants" as well as others who have contributed advice, humor
and content to the site.
Hopefully, 1997 will see continued growth in the content and readership
of our site (http://hearth.com). To this end, we have started a new program
which allows select manufacturers and retailers to become GOLD SPONSORS
of HearthNet. Just what is a GOLD SPONSOR ? These folks understand that
hundreds of hours are going into improving and adding to the content at
HearthNet, and have agreed to support these efforts. They understand that
a REAL presence on the Web is much more than just an advertisement - it
involves a responsibility to teach, share and communicate with the "netizens".
Our first GOLD SPONSORS are Travis Industries and HearthStone. Please visit
the gold page link at http://hearth.com/gold.html
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Inthis digest
1. More THoughts on AOL
2. Good OFF_ Season Coming Up !
1. More thoughts on America Online
From: "John Quinn"
To: "Craig Issod"
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 03:45:33 -0800
X-Msmail-Priority: Normal
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Mime-Version: 1.0
I read your thoughts on AOL.
You really do not need anything other than an ISP. All these program out
there, AOL, CompuServe etc., etc. are not required whatsoever to access
anything anywhere on the Internet......including chat services.
Every program needed is free of charge to download off the net. I pay my
local provider a flat fee of $24.95 a month for unlimited access to anything.
I downloaded Microsoft Internet Explorer as a browser and have downloaded
MIRC to access thousands of chat channels. Internet Explorer has it's own
built-in dialer, a news program, a mail program etc. Nothing else is required
to gain full access to Internet Services.
I looked at AOL about 2 years ago when I first got on-line. I quickly came
to the conclusion that it was a scam.
Just my thoughts !
John Quinn
Factory Representative
Napoleon Fireplaces
Barrie, Ontario
2. Good OFF_ Season Coming Up !
From: Grant Darrow
Subject: Re: Hearth Digest 12/30/96
My busiest season just kicked off!! April, May and the first part of June
are booked soild. For the next three months ALL my advertising (100%) is
FREE!! The Great Stove Changeout starts at my shop tomarrow, and just look
at what is going on!
$1.60 Propane, tons of co-op dollars unused , idle farmers listening to
the radio at local coffee shops, lousy weather, ..... and all my service
and warranty calls are caught up! My shop is open one day a week. Ive sold
more product on the street in front of my shop, as I loaded the days work,
than over the last month in my shop!!
And get this, the local gas company just handed me two marketing tools which
only I can use, why because I'm already in the homes and the gas company
is idle in the water until spring !!! Where and how did this happen? On
the street in front of my shop. Every single employee at the gas company
knows they can count on me personally as their Chimney Sweep in their own
homes and out in the field when the mountain moves and severs the 4"
gas main.
What a way to end 1996!!!!
willieweep last of the climbing sweeps
dancing on tippy toes
end of digest..
Send posts to [email protected]
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end of Digest - Post messages to [email protected]
This Months Digest Sponsored by: Travis Industries,
America's premier manufacturer of steel wood, gas & pellet hearth products
exclusively for the Speciality Hearth Retailer. See the NEW LOPI Heritage
Bay, Discovery Fireplace, Avalon Avanti DVS Fireplace and Fireplace Xtrordinair
36DV-R & 32DVS gas products in our Web site. http://hearth.com/travis. Call
1 800 654-1177 or e-mail us at [email protected] for dealer information.
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Webmasters Comment - From Craig Issod ([email protected])
Please read the Press Release below. HEARTH has decided to forge on despite
the political troubles with HPA.
Make no mistake about my opinion on this subject. I think HPA is definitely
attempting to throw the baby out with the bath water. Just read the list
of folks who have served on the HEARTH board - a "Who's -Who"
of the industry, and a brain trust that CANNOT possibly be replaced by some
hired beltway firm.
If HPA continues on their current tact, they will alienate many of this
industrys' leaders..and further fracture our small organization. The losers
will be all of us; customers, dealers, distributors and manufacturers.
I urge you all to support HEARTH and the concepts of education they represent.
From reading the release below, it appears manufacturers will have a chance
to support this program and promote it to their dealer base. Just DO IT.....
As a reminder of what happens when there is no seperation between church
and state (Trade Org and Education), here's part of a message I posted to
the list last year:
"I was invited to sit at a session (by HEARTH education foundation)
in March at the HPA show.
I still feel the same way. Discussion and opinions from the list - both
pro and con - are welcomed and encouraged.
In this digest:
1. Hearth Press Release
Contact: Ben Weathersby December 31, 1996 Phone (404) 728-0227 Fax (404)
633-8585 [email protected]
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
HEARTH Board Announces Plans for 1997 At its recent meeting in Portland,
Oregon, the HEARTH Education Foundation Board reviewed results of its recent
industry survey and set new directions for the Foundation for 1997. The
survey left no doubt about the importance and effectiveness of certification
programs to industry members:
* 100% of respondents agreed that sellers, installers, and servicers of
hearth products should be knowledgeable about safety and technical issues.
* 69 to 84% found HEARTH manuals and exams effective or very effective.
* 89% agree or strongly agree that professional certification raises technical
expertise and reduces safety and performance problems.
* 67 to 79% agreed or strongly agreed about other benefits of certification:
marketing advantage through increased credibility with customers, profitability
for manufacturers by reducing service/technical calls, and a positive image
and status for the hearth industry.
* Over 75% agreed that the potential loss of professional certification
is an important industry issue.
The HEARTH Board resolved to take a number of actions in response to the
industry's call for continuation and strengthening of certification programs
in the hearth industry:
* The HEARTH Partnership Program forms a new, direct alliance between industry
manufacturers, dealers/installers, and HEARTH. The Partnership Program is
based on participating manufacturers and distributors sharing in the funding
of HEARTH. In turn, HEARTH will provide coupons to Partners for substantial
discounts on manuals and certification exams for the Partners dealer network.
Special Expo pricing and Partner coupons reduce the combination of Training
Manual and Certification Exam at Reno to a net cost of $100. HEARTH partners
will be recognized in the HEARTH booth (751) and with logo placards in their
own booths at Reno.
* HEARTH Certification benefits will be greatly strengthened. A new HEARTH-Pro
Web Page will list currently certified HEARTH Specialists on HearthNet,
which receives over 20,000 visits per month. Mailings to safety officials
and insurance companies will also make currently certified specialist listings
widely available. Customized press releases and public service announcements
will promote individual specialists and the benefits of using certified
specialists.
* HEARTH Certification will place greater emphasis on maintenance of current
technical information. Technical Update newsletters will focus on key industry
issues and form the basis of manual revisions. As part of this effort, certification
will be valid for one year after successful completion of the exam. Annual
renewal will be accomplished through completing a form that updates current
status in the industry and lists seminars, training, trade show and affiliate
meeting attendance. An annual maintenance fee will cover renewal of certification,
Web page and other listings, and technical update newsletters.
* HEARTH will expand regional training opportunities and develop focused
workshops on current industry concerns in addition to current Gas and Pellet
Exam Prep Courses.
* HEARTH is seeking more opportunities for consumer education publications
similar to the highly praised Consumer Guide to Heating with Pellets.
More details on HEARTH programs for 1997 will be available at the HEARTH
Booth at EXPO and at training and exam sessions held in the Reno Hilton.
For more information on HEARTH offerings at Reno, contact Bev Marois at
(802) 728-3569 and for information about Partnership and other programs,
contact Ben Weathersby at (404) 728-0227.
___________________________________________________________________________
This Months Digest Sponsored by: Travis Industries, America's premier manufacturer
of steel wood, gas & pellet hearth products exclusively for the Speciality
Hearth Retailer. See the NEW LOPI Heritage Bay, Discovery Fireplace, Avalon
Avanti DVS Fireplace and Fireplace Xtrordinair 36DV-R & 32DVS gas products
in our Web site. http://hearth.com/travis. Call 1 800 654-1177 or e-mail
us at [email protected] for dealer information.
___________________________________________________________________________
end of Digest - Post messages to [email protected]
Webmasters Note: The archives of the November and December
digests ared now posted in the clubhouse at http://hearth.com/news/hearthlist.html
Remember the username=hearth and password=fire
I'm sorry it took so long to post these, and promise it will not happen
in the future. I have taken the "bull by the horns" and developed
a little Filemaker template that makes "HTMLing" these digests
a breeze. The first ones might not look too good (the formatting), but I'll
improve them as we go...and try to get them up within a week after the month
ends.
From: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:21:43 -0500
To: [email protected] Subject:
Re: Hearth Certification
To all Hearthlist members:
I wholehearthly agreed with Craig that members of the speciality hearth
retailers need to stand behind HEARTH and their education and certification
efforts. I do not understand what our "leaders" at HPA are thinking
when they are disassociating themselves from HEARTH. Do we have such a different
group of leaders and a different mindset about the need for education AND
professional credentials now, than we had in the eighties when our leaders
at that point created WHERF ?? The need is there and even more important
now, than it was then. This industry may not be burning down as many houses
with wood stoves now, as we were back then but there are still dangerous
installations being done every day because of a lack of knowledge.
I feel that one of the most important aspects of my job as a speciality
hearth retailer is education of my customers, or potential customers. Most
of my customers are VERY grateful to find someone that actually knows what
they are talking about. Speaking from the perspective of someone who holds
the four available HEARTH certifications and is a CSIA Certified Chimney
Sweep I know that these programs contributed greatly to my education. Are
they all I need? of course not. I work constantly to keep up with my education
in this industry. It is one of the things I enjoy about this industry, that
it is not static and boring. It is a challange to keep up with the changes
and improvements that are always happening. But if I did not have the HEARTH
certifications as one of the available avenues for education, then I would
be that much poorer in knowledge. I think that the HEARTH programs offer
an excellent base of knowledge to build on. I am also proud to display my
certificates prominently in my showroom. This is what sets me apart from
my competitors who are not certified. I have HEARTH's certificate to show
that someone else (other than me) says that I know my stuff.
I think it is a terrific idea to have the manufacturers serve as partners
for HEARTH certification. I guess we will soon learn who the real leaders
in our industry are for promoting education. Will it cost them money? Of
course. But I also think that with their encouragement to get their dealer
networks certified that it will save them money in the long run. Their products
will be better installed and serviced, creating a better reputation for
their products. I can also guarantee you that I do not call my manufacturer's
tech support numbers for basic questions. I reserve them for the tough questions.
I also do not give out their numbers to my customers because I don't know
the answers, and just want to pass off my customers to someone else to make
my job easier. I just received a letter from one of my manufacturers complaining
about this very thing. Is this manufacturer going to become a partner for
HEARTH to show that they want their dealers to become better educated and
quit wasting the manufacturer's money with uneducated calls and questions?
I guarantee you I have never given a manufacturers number to a customer.
I accepted the problem solving as my responsibility when I became an educated,
certified speciality hearth dealer.
I am fully in support of HEARTH and their certifications and I hope that
our true industry leaders, those who want to support the speciality hearth
dealer will step forward and sponser HEARTH by becoming a partner. I applaud
those manufacturers who have already done so, and showed their primary goal
is not just to "increase their numbers" anyway they can, but they
truly have the industry's best long term interests at heart.
Sorry this is so long, but I think this is an important issue that those
of us who care need to speak up on.
Larry James High Country Stoves Laramie, Wyoming
end of digest
post to [email protected]
We get letters.....
As many of you know, we get LOTS of "questions to the webmasters"
on HearthNet. It makes it all worth it when we get email like this:
From: Mike Goben <[email protected]>
To: Craig Issod
Subject: THANKS SO MUCH!
Craig,
I just wanted to thank you for your response on my piping problems for my
Fisher woodstove. I'm glad you guys are availble to us on the web. It sure
makes it nice knowing there's a professional resource like yourself out
there when we need one. I will probably contact you guys in the near future
to discuss fireplace inserts.
Take care and have a great new year!
Sincerely,
Mike Goben
1. Industry Consultant speaks out on HEARTH
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 10:35:31 -0800
From: John Gulland
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Gulland Associates Inc.
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hearth versus HPA
The ongoing scrap between Hearth and HPA is a tragic waste of time and resources.
Like Craig, I am inclined to support Hearth, not because I know that much
about the behind-the-scenes machinations, but mainly because the people
involved with it have more than proved their committment to the industry
over the years. These are reasonable people and I can't imagine them making
unreasonable demands of HPA, the trade association Hearth has been affiliated
with for so long.
Another reason I'm inclined to support Hearth is that it has made its basic
approach and intentions clear in its various communications with the industry,
whereas the news coming from HPA has been murky at best. What is HPA's agenda,
anyway? If I knew, I might have some sympathy with it, but I am suspicious
of anyone who can't state their case in clear terms. It might be useful
to hear directly from the industry members who sit on HPA's education committee.
I assume these people are well-intentioned and have the best interests of
the industry in mind. Maybe they can explain why it is so necessary to hammer
Hearth.
After reviewing the "Ed Letter" that outlines HPA's educational
offerings for Reno, I've decided not to buy the badge that gets me into
the sessions. It's not that $49 is so much money, but there is little there
that interests me. This will be the first time in well over a decade that
the EXPO Tool Box sessions (or whatever) will not be an important part of
the annual event for me. I assume that the design of this program is based
on HPA surveying and that the majority of respondents said "focus on
management and sales, and minimize technical content by making it soft,
superficial and non-controversial". Obviously, I'm not part of the
HPA's target market, but it sure looks like "Ed Light" to me.
What would it take to get HPA to ease up a little and stop treating those
who are committed to training and certification as the enemy? The hard part,
of course, is that HPA is not the enemy either; we need both HPA and Hearth
and we need both to be healthy, responsive and vibrant in their fields of
endevor.
I sincerely hope that HPA comes around before it is too late. I fear that
there is potential for a breakdown in the coalition of interests that makes
the HPA as powerful as it is today. This ongoing hassle with Hearth is just
one aspect of a bigger picture, but it does not reflect well on the Hearth
Products Association, nor bode well for its future.
Regards,
John
This is for business: http://www.gulland.ca
This is for pleasure: http://www.wood-heat.com
2. More on HEARTH
From: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:09:17 -0500
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Hearth Digest 1/5/96
Hearth ED. a Reps. view : Working at the manufacturering end for nearly
25 yrs. at many levels from VP. to INSTALLER and actually teaching ( zero
- clearance factory builts ) at our first industry recognized school prior
to WHERF at the old JOURNAL. I have learned that sharing the wealth of knowledge
from all sources in and outside our Industry is PARAMOUNT. Keeping it simple
( the education process ) and involving all that will come will spread the
good news about OUR HPA . We need to take the mystery out of the Hearth
business. As a working field Rep. this sure makes life better.
THANKS
LARRY HAMMONDS
SHORE LINES MFG. GROUP
3. Pellet Stove Makers...a lead for you ...
From: "Dahn Rosenqvist Rosenqvit's"
To:
Subject: pellet stove
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:14:02 +0100
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X-Priority: 3
Mime-Version: 1.0
Dear Sir.
We are a company in Sweden working in Skandinavia with enery and pellets
manufacturing.
We looking for a indore PELLETS STOVE to ouer program to costomars. Are
you intresting to cominto the Skandinavian market witch is the biggest growing
send information about your program of stoves.
Regards
Dahn Rosenqvist
Manager director.
*****************************************
Dahn Rosenqvist
Rosenqvist's
Gringelstadsvägen 118
291 97 Gärds Köpinge , Sweden
Phone +46 (0) 44235217
Fax +46 (0) 44235601
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send posts to [email protected]
This month's digest is sponsored by Heat-N-Glo Fireplace
Products, the innovators of gas and direct vent fireplaces. Visit our web
site at http://www.heatnglo.com to find out more about our full line of
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IN this digest:
1. POS Programs for Mac
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:05:53 -0500 (EST)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Macintosh POS Systems
There's nothing like a hurricane to make you aware of how "loose "
your ship is. To say that the crew and captain at Taproot have been swept
away so far this season is a major understatement. I can't recall a year
where the pace of business has been so frantic. We've barely been able to
hang on. Back orders.. voice mail.. busy signals.... lost invoices...four
lines ringing...has it shipped?...where are the parts... out of fax paper...,
you did order it didn't you?... it's Mrs. Blake on line three again, ....
blah, blah, blah. So.....after twenty years in the hearth business I've
decided it's time to get a point of sale system and get a grip on the beast.
We've used Multi-ledger for years to handle our accounting and a number
of other programs for producing ads, forms and DTP projects. Our small Mac
based LAN works great, but when it comes to dealing with order tracking,
inventory control and POS functions we're still in the cash register/ cigar
box mode. What I could really use is input ( good, bad or indifferent) regarding
Mac based point of sale systems. I've looked at POS-IM from Ensign Systems
and POS/OE 4 Mac by E.E.S. but that's the extent of it. There's lots out
there that's not Mac based, but I'm not quite ready to join the "dark
side" just yet. If anyone has any recommendations let me here from
you! Keep the Home fires burning!
Dave Coppinger
Taproot Hearth & Patio
Williamsburg
(webmasters note) Dave, We use Filemaker Pro to run POS in two stores. So
far, it has tracked over 10 Million dollars for us without losing a cent....We
made up our own templates, which are tailored to our needs..and improving
(slightly) as we go along. There are other Mac POS programs, some based
on 4D (a database)..POS-IM is the most popular, but I demoed quite a few
and found that none suited my needs. Did you check out a demo from HearthPro
- the software made for Hearth Dealers ? I'd gladly send you copies of my
templates, but without a personal explaination..you'd never make sense of
it...If you ever feel like driving up, we've got two extra bedrooms. I have
another good demo of a POS at the store...I'll get the name and email you...
the folks are really nice.
Other on the list (you- Rona) , post your experience....
2. Anyone have a lead for these folks ?
(webmasters note)--Please email to the person below if you have any leads)
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 10:10:03 -0800
From: Jackie Zammit
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: [email protected]
Subject: cast iron mantels
X-Url: http://query1.whowhere.com/jwz/email.more.wsrch?24,10,7,054/puPdZcl
I would like to enquire if you have any catalogues re cast iron/brass mantels
or if you know anyone I can contact.
Thanks in advance for your co-operation.
regards
jackie
3. Webheads Party if Reno still exists?
X-Sender: [email protected]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 20:59:35 -0600
To: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Subject: Mud City... WebHeads
Is 5 ft of water a problem? I have not heard anything about the Reno cleanup...Is
this something that we should be concerned about? I haven't attended a mud
event in over 20 years....... so whats to worry...... I am sure the tables
will all spin accurately and the carpets will be new.... ............................................................................
........................................................................
This is not like trying to clean up a manufacturing plant and getting things
back on schedule..... this is Nevada ..... not Indiana. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Don't go for the discount offers on the ground level suites.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Are we having a second annual WebHead get together? ............. I for
one vote in favor and will contribute............ Got to plan ahead for
the important events you know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(webmasters note)
OK, who's the list members in Reno...Willieweep or whatever, and who else....
Anyone know any good blues bands in the Reno area. I, for one, am tired
of the bar-mitzah bands at the HPA show.... " Take this job and shove
it" - gimmee a break..... I want Jimi Hendrix, Elvis or maybe Stevie
Ray..... Rock and Roll will never die !
I'm willing to donate also, but we may need to arrange this one ... which
nights are best ? Thursday Eve....Friday, Sat.... When is the HPA thing
?
end of digest.....
This month's digest is sponsored by Heat-N-Glo Fireplace
Products, the innovators of gas and direct vent fireplaces. Visit our web
site at http://www.heatnglo.com to find out more about our full line of
gas and woodburning fireplaces, including our new CampFyre fireplace. ------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Rock and Roll
2.Reno Alive and Well
3. Filemaker Pro
4. HEARTH and HPA
1.Rock and Roll
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 20:54:40 -0800
From: Jim Butchart
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Hearth and Color Shop
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Craig Issod
Subject: Re: Hearth Digest 1/9/97
Craig Issod wrote:
> I want Jimi Hendrix, Elvis or maybe Stevie
> Ray..... Rock and Roll will never die !
We will have to get a "medium" to get those guys to play for us.
But one
Hell of a party it would be. (I've got Tin Pan Alley playing right now
on the 'puter cd [Couldn't Stand the Weather - SRV])
--
Jim Butchart
[email protected]
http://www.hearthshop.com
2.Reno Alive and Well
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 06:12:48 -0800
X-Sender: [email protected] (Unverified)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Craig Issod
From: Jon Greene
Subject: WE ARE ALIVE IN SPARKS & RENO
Cc: [email protected]
We survived the great Reno Flood of 1997! The area that we are in was badly
flooded and the evacuation order lasted 5 days due to both water and to
backed up sewer lines. There are still a few businesses that are under water.
However, as far as I know, there were no losses to any one in the Hearth
industry. The worst part was that I had to reschedule several installs and
service appointments. For those of you that are interested in flood information
or in general Reno Information for the show, start with
See you all in Reno
Jon Greene
Buck Stove & Home Center
3.Filemaker Pro POS
From: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:46:46 -0500 (EST)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Hearth Digest 1/9/97
Dear Craig, I was interested to learn you use Filemaker Pro for a POS system.
We, too, have to do something about developing a POS system and I haven't
found anything yet. We have all our inventory on a Filemaker Pro database
and I just need to find time to develop my own templates. Have been working
too many hours to find the time to develop something. We're dedicated Mac
users and I know we're going to have to invest in buying a few more computers.
Would you be willing to share your templates? It might help me work with
our inventory. Also, do you use a scanner or do you use an ID # to bring
up your data? We use MYOB for our accounting which also has our inventory
on it, and I know there are ways to combine information. Thanks. Wendy Feen,
Feen's Country Living, Leominster, MA
[email protected]
Sparks, NV
(Craig Replies) Wendy, we use a simple SKU# to bring up our data. Our system
is a bit "rough and ready", but it suits us well. I'd be willing
to share the templates, but there are a few problems:
1. They are not fully documented, so you may not get full use without disecting
them for awhile.
2. We are just now upgrading the stores to the "relational" 3.0
version. Up to now, our inventory was only updated at the end of each day,
where as the 3.0 version updates as soon as the data is entered.
Our template is good at mananging daily bank deposits, etc..for instance,
at the end of each day it prints out a checklist of cash, checks and MC
that should be in the drawer. The clerk simply makes a checkmark next to
each item, and puts it in an envelope.
Fot those of you who don't know, usually the "back-end" accounting,
like Quickbooks, MYOB, etc, is seperate from the POS (front counter) system.
Our controllers have always liked it that way, and say they would not save
a lot of time if we integrated it, so I simply provide her with the bank
deposits and end of month sales tax reports....and of course, have to give
her info at year end....but it only takes a few minutes.
Our same POS also writes personal "Thank You" letter at the end
of each month, keeps the names for mailing list, warranty, etc., and allows
us to know up-to-the-minute what our sales volume is.
By the way, the name of a good MAc POS vendor:
db Solutions
1-800-888-2640
Single and Multi-store solutions based on Flexware, a heavy duty data manager..
4. HEARTH and HPA
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:23:56 -0800 (PST)
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To: Craig Issod
From: Wayne Rourke
Subject: Re: Hearth versus HPA
I read with interest the comments on Hearth and HPA and agree with John
Gulland and Craig. The real problem is that the member manufacturers don't
really want the attentees of the Reno Show to attend the Educational Sessions
because they have spent so much money to be at this show. I just spent a
couple of hours setting up the details for the Reno show for our group of
5 here at Northwest Stoves and all of my staff that are attending said that
there wasn't a lot that interested them at the education sessions. Yes,
I will still buy a $ 49.00 badge for them but its too bad they are so LITE
WEIGHT. I guess this is the reason that the Wood Gas Forum in Toronto is
so popular (except last year). Gas Fireplace Assoc in British Columbia did
the Western Fireplace Forum 96 last year for the following reason. We are
not doing the Western Fireplace Forum in 97 but we will do it in 1998. So
Folks, If you want to get Educated go to the show in Toronto in June or
a number of good distributor shows in the U.S.A. because HPA is not doing
it.......TOO BAD...
See you in Reno
Sincerely,
Wayne Rourke
President
Northwest Stoves
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1. More on Education - and New Manual published
2. New Product
Contact: Ben Weathersby January 18, 1996 Phone (404) 728-0227 Fax (404 633-8585
E-mail [email protected]
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
HEARTH Chimney Venting Manual Receives High Praise Reliable Chimney Venting,
written by John Gulland, was recently named the best-organized and most
useful publication available on chimneys by Energy Design Update, a prestigious
newsletter aimed at builders and architects interested in cutting edge energy
issues. Editor Ned Nissons glowing review in his article The Best Book on
Chimney Venting praises Gullands ability to present sophisticated building
science principles...in an easy-to-understand, well-illustrated fashion.
Nisson calls the manual an extremely practical publication and cites its
replacement of outdated rules of thumb with techniques based on the dynamics
of air pressure in homes to prevent and diagnose chimney problems, including
causes of flue reversal and solutions, dealing with effects of wind and
exhaust appliances, and pros and cons of outdoor air supply. Reliable Chimney
Venting is published in the U.S. by HEARTH Education Foundation. John Gulland
presents the HEARTH training seminar Chimney Performance in Modern Homes,
Thursday, March 6 before the HPA Expo 97 in Reno. The registration fee includes
a copy of the manual. To register for the seminar or to order the manual,
call HEARTH at (802) 728-3569.
2. New Product
From: "Ted M. Benchley"
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: AbriBois Inc.
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To: [email protected]
Subject: New Product
Hello, my name is Ted M. Benchley, a young inventor of a product geared
towards all the people that enjoy the warmth and ambience of a fireplace.
My company, AbriBois Inc., is the manufacturer of the "Dry-Keeper",
a lightweight portable shelter for firewood. The frame is made of a high
resistant PVC pipe and fittings requiring no adhesives for easy assembly/disassembly
and a cover made from a woven polyethylene material resistant to UV rays,
washable and lightweight. Four sizes are currently available for storing
one to four face coords of firewood.
We are currently seeking potential distributors and for further information
please feel free to contact myself.
Best Regards...
Ted M. Benchley - President
AbriBois Inc.
605 Trudel
St-Jerome, PQ J7Z 5M2
514.438.6743
[email protected]
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It just keeps going.....and you though the 200MHZ Pentiums or 225-300 MHZ
PowerMacs were quick....get a load of this article from BYTE Magazine:
____Start of quoted material_________
From BYTE Magazine - www.byte.com
PowerPC Speed Demon
Exponential Technology's 533-MHz bipolar microprocessor will breathe new
life into the PowerPC architecture and the Macintosh.
Tom R. Halfhill
There's an old joke about a computer so fast it can execute an infinite
loop in 10 seconds. Exponential Technology's new PowerPC-compatible X704
chips aren't quite that fast, but their clock speeds of 466, 500, and 533
MHz make you wonder if that joke might come true.
You can bet that Intel isn't laughing. Exponential's CPUs will munch on
Pentium and Pentium Pro chips for breakfast. What's more, the X704 appears
to have plenty of headroom for future performance gains. It's actually a
conservative design that doesn't push the limit of what's possible.
____End of quoted material_________
Another article I read from the Washington Post states that one should not
run out and buy one of those new Pentium MMX based systems based on the
speed. Turns out the speed increase will only be about 10%, and then only
on certain supported software ( much of which will take a year or more to
appear)..The article even claimed that certain programs may actually slow
down as a MMX result. All these companies would love us to sell our trusty
steeds and buy new ones.....truth is, the "older" computers will
do 90% + of what folks need to do. I still use 1988-1990 Macs in parts of
my business, and these do the job fine. Unless you are editing 3D and Video
your existing system (Intel 486 and newer, Mac 68030 and newer) will probably
do just fine !
--ed
1.Cawley-LeMay Parts
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:52:31 -0500 (EST)
To: [email protected]
Subject: A blast from the past
Does anyone know if anyone has replacement parts for the old Cawley LeMay
woodstoves? We have an old customer that bought one from us, appreciates
the beauty of his stove and needs an interior bafle plate. I almost forgot
about the line until this guy came in. I assume that it is as much a part
of history as the Nixon administration but thought I'd ask. If anyone has
a lead, please e-mail me at [email protected]. Thanks.
Skip Stahmer
Sierra Timberline
Grass Valley, CA
(Skip, I know there is an outfit out of Ore or Wash that sells these..hope
someone on the list will give you an address) - ed
2. HPA Education Seminars Press Release
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:03:38 -0800
From: Danusha Dehipitiya
Organization: Hearth Products Association
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Craig,
Please post the following news release at your earliest convenience.
Thanks,
Contact:
January 14, 1997
Kate Poindexter
Director of Communications
(703) 522-0086
FOR
IMMEDIATE RELEASE
HPA'S 1997 EDUCATION PROGRAM:
OUR HARD WORK HAS PAID OFF
Arlington, VA --- HPA's new educational program will debut at Hearth & Home
EXPO '97 March 5 - 10 in Reno, NV. The program, featuring 39 different seminars,
is organized into three tracks: Management, Sales/Marketing, and Technical.
While educational programming is scheduled throughout the show, EXPO '97
has been expanded to include two "education only" days March 5
- 6.
"The fact that we have reserved the first two days of EXPO '97 to education
exclusively, shows HPA's dedication to our program. We've worked hard to
provide the best speakers available, real working experts in diverse areas.
And by keeping costs down --- an education badge runs only $49 --- we have
made the program accessible to everyone," said HPA's education committee
chairman Bill Sendelback, Breckwell Hearth Products/NSO.
"The real reason why our programs are second to none is that we've
asked experts in the hearth industry to explain how technology relates to
us. We believe it was a real coup to get industry veterans like Craig Issod
and Jim Butchart to teach others about employing computers in hearth retailing
businesses," Sendelback said.
HPA's program is the most extensive and varied hearth industry educational
offering to date. The committee took great pains to ensure that the topics
featured in the program would be relevant to all hearth dealers. There is
something for everyone.
"Our education committee volunteers have worked hard to put together
the best program in the industry. I want to thank each and every one of
them," said Sendelback.
In addition to Bill Sendelback, HPA's education committee members are: Ross
Barton, Ace Fireplace & Lawn Center, Ontario, OR; Stephen Magnotti, The
Fireplace, Pittsburgh, PA; Judy Miller, The Woodburners Two, Falls Church,
VA; Kirk Newby, Associated Energy Systems, Kent, WA; Steven Pawley, Steven
Pawley, Inc., Rochester, NY; Ken Rajesky, Vermont Castings, Inc., Bethel,
VT; Paul Stegmeir, St. Paul, MN; Glen Swenson, Heat-N-Glo Fireplace Products,
Inc., Savage, MN; and John Turner, Cricket On the Hearth, Inc., Rochester,
NY. Here's the all-star lineup of educational programs and speakers at HPA's
Hearth & Home EXPO '97.
Wednesday, March 5, 1997
Bringing Your Business To The Next Level: Time to Grow?
Speaker: Pat McGraw, Business Resource Services
9:00 am - 12:00 noon
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Identifying and Locating Your Best Customers - Selling to Today's
Customers
Speaker: Jim Rubart, The Marketeers
9:00 am - 11:00 am
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Basic Gas Set-up and Installation
Speaker: Dave Pomeroy, Copperfield Chimney Supply
9:00 am - 1:00 pm
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Qualifying and Properly Selling to Consumers
Speaker: Frank Andrus, ABSCO Fireplace & Patio
11:00 am - 12:00 noon
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Hiring Terrific Employees
Speaker: Kit Anderton, Woodstove & Sun
1:00 pm - 2:00 pm
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Advertising: Reaching Your Best Customer
Speaker: Jim Rubart, The Marketeers
1:00 pm - 3:00 pm
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Training and Communication - Keys to Employee Success
Speaker: Kit Anderton, Woodstove & Sun
2:00 pm - 3:30 pm
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
CO Detectors Update - Basic
Speaker: Paul Stegmeir, Consultant
2:00 pm - 3:30 pm
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Soft-Sell Techniques for the Showroom Floor
Speaker: Al Dasburg, Global Retail Specialists
3:00 pm - 5:00 pm
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Delegating and Managing Employees
Speaker: Kit Anderton, Woodstove & Sun
3:30 pm - 5:00 pm
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Thursday, March 6, 1997
What Computers Can Do For You !
Speaker: Stephen Wagenheim, RealTime, Inc.
9:00 am - 10:00 am
B3 & B6; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Identifying and Locating Your Best Customers - Selling to Today's
Customers
Speaker: Jim Rubart, The Marketeers
9:00 am - 11:00 am
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Troubleshooting Woodburning Stoves and Fireplaces - Basic
Speaker: Paul Stegmeir, Consultant
9:00 am - 12:00 noon
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
How To Get Started: What Do I Really Need?
Speakers: Roger Sanders, Bev Ann Timm-Fireside Spa & Patio
Russ Glidewell, Associated Energy Systems
10:00 am - 11:00 am
B3 & B6; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
The Computer Is Out of the Box - What Now?
Speakers: Kay Reynolds, Friendly Fire; Christie Martindale, Bishop
Woodstove
11:00 am - 12:00 noon
B3 & B6; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Qualifying and Properly Selling to Consumers
Speaker: Frank Andrus, ABSCO Fireplace & Patio
11:00 am - 12:00 noon
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
PC Networking for the Hearth Retailer Business Environment
Speaker: Michael Chern, Baker Street Computing
1:00 pm - 2:00 pm
B3 & B6; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Financial Management for Non-Financial Managers - Introductory Level
Speaker: Pat McGraw, Business Resource Services
1:00 pm - 2:00 pm
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Advertising: Reaching Your Best Customer
Speaker: Jim Rubart, The Marketeers
1:00 pm - 3:00 pm
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Gas Leak Detection Techniques - Basic
Speaker: Mike Rodriguez, Sierra Pacific Power Co.
1:00 pm - 2:00 pm
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Computer Software: Application Opportunities for Hearth Retailers
Speaker: Jim Butchart, Hearth and Color Shop
2:00 pm - 3:00 pm
B3 & B6; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Please note: {Additional times will be set aside as computer labs for
attendees to work with tutorials and sample application exercises of
different software packages.}
Financial Management: Tool for Decision-Making - Intermediate Level
Speaker: Pat McGraw, Business Resource Services
2:00 pm - 4:00 pm
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
CO Detectors Update - Basic
Speaker: Paul Stegmeir, Consultant
2:00 pm - 3:30 pm
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Are You on the Superhighway Yet? Getting on the Entrance Ramp with the
Internet.
Speaker: Craig Issod, CHI Associates
3:00 pm - 4:00 pm
B19 & B20; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Soft-Sell Techniques for the Showroom Floor
Speaker: Al Dasburg, Global Retail Specialists
3:00 pm - 5:00 pm
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Computer Lab
4:00 pm - 5:00 pm
B19 & B20; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
The computer room will be open. Please come to learn about personal
computers, get familiar with them, and test software applications.
How Liable Are You?
Speakers: Scott McElroy, Sedgwick James of WA, Inc.
Price Grandy, Grandy & Associates
4:00 pm - 5:00 pm
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Friday, March 7, 1997
Computer Lab
Time: Friday, March 7: 1:00 pm - 5:00 pm
Room: B19 & B20
The computer room will be open. Please come to learn about personal
computers, get familiar with them, and test software applications.
Financial Management for Non-Financial Managers - Introductory Level
Speaker: Pat McGraw, Business Resource Services
1:00 pm - 2:00 pm
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Public Relations to Build Sales
Speakers: Mary Carson, WE & Associates, Ltd.
William Shadrach III, Martin Industries
Gloria Salvanelli, Vermont Castings
1:00 pm - 2:00 pm
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Establishing An Annual Gas Servicing Program - Basic
Speaker: Dave Pomeroy, Copperfield Chimney Supply
1:00 pm - 3:00 pm
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Financial Management: Tool for Decision-Making - Intermediate Level
Speaker: Pat McGraw, Business Resource Services
2:00 pm - 4:00 pm
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Homebuilding Trends
Speaker: Leslie Ensor, Custom Home Magazine
2:00 pm - 3:00 pm
B1 & B4; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
New Concepts in Store Design & Display
Speaker: Greg Gorman, GMG Design
2:00 pm - 4:00 pm
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Indoor Air Quality/Tight Building Syndrome - Basic
Speaker: Skip Hayden, Advanced Combustion Technology
3:00 pm - 4:30 pm
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
How Liable Are You?
Speakers: Scott McElroy, Sedgwick James of WA, Inc.
Price Grandy, Grandy & Associates
4:00 pm - 5:00 pm
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Point of Purchase Techniques That Work
Speaker: Greg Gorman, GMG Design
4:20 pm - 5:20 pm
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Gas Leak Detection Techniques - Basic
Speaker: Mike Rodriguez, Sierra Pacific Power Co.
4:00 pm - 5:00 pm
B1 & B4; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Saturday, March 8, 1997
Computer Lab
8:00 am - 10:00 am; 1:00 pm - 5:00 pm
B19 & B20; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
The computer room will be open. Please come to learn about personal
computers, get familiar with them, and test software applications.
Managing A Service Department for Efficiency and Profitability
Speaker: Tom Grandy, Grandy & Associates
8:00 am - 10:00 am
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
New Concepts in Store Design & Display
Speaker: Greg Gorman, GMG Design
8:00 am - 10:00 am
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Vent-Free Sizing and Troubleshooting - Basic
Speakers: Doug DeWerth, AGA Research
Frank Broome, Columbia Hearth & Home,
Ed Starer, Archer Marketing
Dan Melcon, consultant
8:00 am - 10:00 am
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Point of Purchase Techniques That Work
Speaker: Greg Gorman, GMG Design
10:20 am - 11:20 am
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Am I Really Making A Profit?
Speaker: Tom Grandy, Grandy & Associates
1:00 pm - 4:00 pm
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Computer Lab
1:00 pm - 5:00 pm
B19 & B20; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
The computer room will be open. Please come to learn about personal
computers, get familiar with them, and test software applications.
Public Relations to Build Sales
Speakers: Mary Carson, WE & Associates, Ltd.
William Shadrach III, Martin Industries
Gloria Salvanelli, Vermont Castings
1:00 pm - 2:00 pm
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Pellet Stove Installation - Basic
Speaker: Mel Monk, Energy Innovations, Inc.
1:00 pm - 3:00 pm
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Homebuilding Trends
Speaker: Leslie Ensor, Custom Home Magazine
2:00 pm - 3:00 pm
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Indoor Air Quality/Tight Building Syndrome - Basic
Speaker: Skip Hayden, Advanced Combustion Technology
3:00 pm - 4:30 pm
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
HPA/Friedman Professional Retail Selling Video Training Program
Speaker: Harry Friedman
3:00 - 5:00 pm
B12 & B13
New Codes in Place/Practical Compliance Issues for the Hearth Retailer -
Basic
Speakers: John Crouch and Michael Van Buren, Hearth Products Association
Frank Stanonik, Gas Appliance Manufacturers Association
4:00 pm - 5:00 pm
B1 & B4; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Sunday, March 9, 1997
Hearth Products Association "Qualified Hearth Dealer Program"
Speaker: Susan Kalish, HPA Education Director
10:00 am - 11:00 am
B10 & B11; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Avoiding Deceptive Pricing and Advertising
Speaker: John Peterson, Howe & Hutton
10:00 am - 11:00 am
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
What's New in Gas Installation Technology - Basic
Speakers: Steve Hockenberry, Titeflex
Don Townsend, Simpson Dura-Vent
John Jacklich, Simpson Dura-Vent
10:00 am - 12:00 noon
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Gas Research Institute Market Study Results
Speakers: Larry Dombrowski, Gas Research Institute
Mark Neiderluecke, The Axiom Group
11:00 am - 12:00 noon
B12 & B13; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
NEW!!!
FireWright: The Training Course
Speakers: Don Kaufman, Superior Fireplace
Susan Kalish, HPA Education Director
12:30 pm - 4:30 pm
B7 & B8; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
Computer Lab
10:00 am - 12:00 noon;1:00 pm - 4:00 pm
B19 & B20; Reno/Sparks Convention Center
The computer room will be open. Please come to learn about personal
computers, get familiar with them, and test software applications.
"HPA thanks all of the speakers who have graciously given time to us
to
prepare presentations," said HPA's president Carter Keithley. "We
invite all hearth industry professionals from the US and Canada to sign
up for HPA's Hearth & Home EXPO '97's educational seminars. We think you
will agree that our program is second to none."
The deadline for pre-registration for HPA's Hearth & Home EXPO '97 is fast
approaching. Sign up now to attend the industry's premier showcase of products,
services, and educational seminars. Call HPA today (703) 522-0086 for registration
information. Better yet, visit HotSpots, HPA's web site [www.hearthassoc.org]
and click on the registration form to register for the show on-line.
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Things are changing SO FAST on the web, that what was accurate last month
no longer holds true today. One of these changes is that visitors to your
web site are not FREE anymore. WHY ? The answer is very simple, and can
easily be seen in my experience with Stoveworks, our retail shop:
Stoveworks was one of the first Hearth Shops on the Net, and therefore received
the bulk of Net visitors looking for Fireplace and related info. Soon after
our posting on the Web, over 100 people per day were browsing our pages.
The Web has grown a lot since then, and there are easily twice as many web
surfers (about 40 million in US and Canada)..BUT there are now dozens of
sites with Fireplace and Stove related information. So, each one gets a
smaller piece of the pie.
Stoveworks sees less visitors now than a year ago, even though we've been
indexed by all the web search engines for a year and 1/2.
After you've done the basics, such as listing your site with search engines,
etc.... the best way to get more visitors is to pay for them. This means
doing advertising on the Internet in one of two fashions:
1. Pay for each Visitor - called "click-thru advertising"
2. Pay for each impression of your banner or logo - whether the surfer decides
to click to your site or not.
The Net is currently sorting out the value of these advertising models,
and the following trends have emerged.
1. NONE of the big sites will sell you "click-thru" visits to
your web site...After all, if they can sell their advertising without having
to really account for specific numbers, why should they ?
2. Click-Thrus, especially qualified ones, have become VERY valuable, with
sites asking for $.50 to as much as $3.00 for each visitor to your site.
The lower end of this scale does make some sense in the following manner.....
If I have a site selling stoves, gaslogs, etc...with an average ticket of
$500.
and..I make a sale for every 100 visitors that come to my site.....
Then, at .50 per click, my cost per sale is $50.00, well within a good range.
This says nothing of the brand recognition, communications and other functions
of a web site.
As more and more businesses of ALL types enter the web (and believe me,
they are)...your business may get harder and harder to find.
As a result, there are two ways a business can now look at the Internet:
1. Just be there...as a sideline - Retailers or manufacturers can easily
put up a few pages,and sit back..print their URL in their newspaper ads
and brochure...and they WILL see a few visitors here and there. This is
surely better than no presence at all.
2. Make an Effort - Others may find that the Media pays off much better
than some of their traditional expenditures. In this case, they should shift
some of their print ad and other budget to the Web...and use it for site
development, promotions, and buying links and listings.
As a retailer, I often spend thousands per month on newspaper ads, mailings,
etc. Larger manufacturers may spend hundreds of thousands on printing, mailings,
trade shows, print ads, etc. As the Web imprints itself into the landscape
of America and the world, we as marketers must continually assess and re-assess
the results from ALL our efforts. What was good yesterday may be a bust
tommorrow...
It's still true, the Web is like the Wild, Wild West...What has changed
is that some of the good land (with water, views of the mountains, etc)
has been staked out already...and you may have to yield some of your hard-earned
gold in order to entice the land barons to sell you a building lot, ranch
or superhighway exit ramp into your town...
But ,what the heck, maybe all this will change next week !
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Fess Up !
Sitting on my desk are two recalls from Chrysler Corp... concerning my 1992
Van. These are for a rear door latch that MAY..in certain accidents -- fail..
Not a big deal for me since I usually always drive alone....and almost never
have passengers in the rear. Yet, it's a big enough safety issue that they
MUST get me to bring it in to have it fixed.
Meanwhile, as a Hearth Retailer, I sell lots of Gas Appliances. Certain
of these lines have problems that are not "one-of-a kind"....
but are seen in large percentages of their models... A short for-instance:
and other assorted boners.....
Strange, when I call these manufacturers and mention the problem, it usually
seems as if I'm the first one they've heard. Just like "the checks
in the mail" and "I'll love you in the morning"..there are
a full range of stock solutions to these problems:
A. "It's a Gas Pressure Problem...the unit is very sensitive"
B. "Improper Maintenance"
C. "We've never heard of this before "(even though it happened
to 3 out of 4 units I've sold)
D. "We'll take care of your problem....but this is not a problem across
our product line"
E. "and many others"
In order for our Industry to mature, we are going to need a lot more cooperation
from vendors. Keeping your dealers and the public in the dark about potential
problems and the solutions is a lose-lose situation.
My kudos to those manufacturers who have choosen a more respectable route....
____________________________________
Customer Service Award (NOT) - A certain Glass Door company has been plagued
by quality control and dealer relations problems. Due to these problems,
we stopped carrying the line--except for special order.....
Meanwhile, one of our recent customers comes in and needs to return one
of these doors for warranty - we get the factory OK and send it back ..In
October.
After chasing the door for two months, we are told (yes, in these words)
" We are holding your door hostage, cause we think you owe us $118."
A check of our accounts shows they owe us $3.71 - which has been OKed by
two parties on their end, including their President.
Despite the customer calling then , and our pleas..we are unbale to get
the door released....keep in mind this is a customer warranty, not a new
order. (this makes us look REAL GOOD to the customer (NOT).
Only after threatening (and going) to the Chamber of Commerce and the Board
of Consumer Affairs -- plus proving beyond a doubt they owe us (even then,
they said "we don't remember giving you those credits")....were
we able to get them to agree to release the customers door - which we have
not received as of yet -- THREE MONTHS...
--Craig [email protected]
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1. Warrcor Warranty
2. Outdoor Marketing
3. Manufactured Logs
1. Warrcor Warranty
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 19:06:28 EST
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Warrcor warranty
We bought some of these warranties a few years ago, and have never had a
claim despite the fact that we "gave away" (never sold) about
30 or more of them. When the owner of one of these warranties had his gas
insert fan give out he came to us for service. We - not really trusting
Warrcor - tried to get in touch with them. 800# phone doesn't work, and
no one is reachable. Does any member of this hearth list have any experience
on how to get Warrcor to respond so we can ascertain that we will get paid
before we spend money we don't have on this fellow? Alternatively what does
get their attention? Is theer a warranty company who does what they say
they will do when one buys the product? Cal Wallis
2. Outdoor Marketing
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:53:46 -0500
From: Louis Tweed
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Tad Tweed Trucking
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To: Craig Issod
Subject: Marketting Outdoors
To the digest:
I am looking for a tent/enclosure for displaying pellet, direct vent gas,
direct vent coal stoves outside. I am starting to display our stoves at
county fairs, fall home shows, etc. I need something to display operating
stoves, barbeques, etc. Any thoughts or ideas on what to get, and/or where
to purchase this type of display would be greatly appreciated. Louis Tweed
Mace Energy Supply
Smithsburg, MD
3. Manufactured Logs
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:29:54 -0800
To: [email protected]
From: Christie Martindale
Hi,
With all the rain and snow we've been getting in the Eastern Sierra people
in the area are running out of wood. I get manufactured logs from one supplier
in Idaho, but he is back ordered forever! Does any one know of another manufacturer
for compressed logs that are 100% wood?
See You in Reno!
Christie Martindale
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1. Warrcor Warranties
2. Austroflamm in Canada
1. Warrcor Warranties
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:30:13 -0500
To: Ken Bahr
From: Charlie Swett
Subject: Re: Hearth Digest 1/26/97
Cal Wallis wrote:
>We bought some of these (Warrcor) warranties a few years ago, and have
never had a
>claim despite the fact that we "gave away" (never sold) about
30 or more of
>them. When the owner of one of these warranties had his gas insert fan
>give out he came to us for service. We - not really trusting Warrcor
-
>tried to get in touch with them. 800# phone doesn't work, and no one
is
>reachable.
Warrcor is not answering your phone calls because they are out of business.
They closed their doors about 4 months ago. Warrcor supposedly had an insurance
policy to cover the warranties. Either they didn't or the lawyers, as usual,
decided that nobody was going to get paid until they got their pound of
flesh.
At this point in time it appears that your options are limited. If you purchased
the warranties through an appliance manufacturer, I suggest that you contact
them to determine how the warranty is going to be handled. If you purchased
the warranties directly from Warrcor, you probably need to talk to your
attorney.
Charlie Swett
Crossroads Sales Co.
Portland, OR
2. AustroFlamm in Canada
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:30:30 -0500
To: Ken Bahr
From: "Pat Kerr"
Subject: Austroflamm
Austroflamm is no longer distributed in Canada to our knowledge, however
we need to order parts. Can anyone direct us to the U.S. distributor for
Austroflamm pellet, gas and wood appliances? Thanks,
Pat Kerr
Sunworks Hawkesbury Ontario
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Pat Kerr
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