Hearthlist Digest #580 - Wednesday, March 14, 2001 Re: Outgassing by "steve hanson" <[email protected]> Re: Outgassing by "The Firebird" <[email protected]>
(back) Subject: Re: Outgassing From: "steve hanson" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:01:58 -0500 Here is my take on the out gassing . We can have the mfr's clean all the parts of oil , we can have them bake the paint and for that matter clean the pipe too it would only be time and money right . So this winter instead of the 3-4 weeks to get a stove we can tell our customer 8-10 weeks so they dont have to worry about smoke and smell .. We can also tell them that the rusted out stove they picked up is new but all the oils have been taken off at the factory to keep them from smoking and smelling. The other thing - The 2000 dollar stove will now cost 2500 dollars for a few hours of smoke or smell . I wish the furnace man who replaced my heat exchanger in my furnace had told me before I turned it on so I could have opened a few windows.In any industry we have nuisances, Anyone had new carpet installed ? Anyone live by a brewery? I say all this in a nice way but I have yet to have a customer complain about the smoke or smell in seven years in the industry. I have had several complants from h/o who were not told it would happen by others , but should we push it off on the mfr's ? I have seem in just a few years very good improvement on the paint (heatilator and heat-n-glo ) very little smoke on fireplaces , minor smell of curing paint . As for the stoves like I said its got to have oils or you will have a new rusted out stove to sell or install. If your upfront and explain to your customers you will not have complaners but happy customers [email protected] wrote: > Hearthlist Digest #579 - Tuesday, March 13, 2001 > > Re: out gassing > by "Tex McLeod" <[email protected]> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: out gassing > From: "Tex McLeod" <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:33:37 -0500 > > Greetings everyone - just a quick note to lend my voice to Scott's = concerns > regarding the off gassing of paint on stoves. In my case I purchased a = new > cast wood stove that was painted, not enameled. While I was prepared = for > some odours as suggested in the owners manual, I was totally unprepared = for > the smoke and fumes that filled the house on initial and subsequent = firings. > I had all the windows and doors open and still the smoke detectors were > going off. I had no idea............ It is shocking to me that this = might be > universal from manufacturer to manufacturer in home after home around = the > country. Surely there is a way to condition these stoves before = installation > or at least, give folks the option to fire them outside their home = before > bringing them in for installation. > It is not acceptable - I don't know why we do. > Cheers, Tex. > > > Hearthlist Digest #577 - Wednesday, March 7, 2001 > > > > Outgassing, HPA positioning regards EPA MACT rule. > > by "heidi nichols" <[email protected]> > > > > > > =
(back) Subject: Re: Outgassing From: "The Firebird" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:02:21 -0500 I agree 100% regarding the outgassing on new stoves. What is the logical reason for this situation? Here's a short list of products that have flame and/or generate similar = high temperatures, have metals with presumably oil residues, and have paint and/or enamels. All of these I've personally purchased within the last 4 or 5 years and none!! have = ever outgassed/smoked like the typical new stove: automobile gas hot water heater gas fired central furnace gas barbecue grill Coleman type camp stove Coleman type gas lantern "You've just purchased a top quality heating appliance from a stove professional, but don't worry when it smokes you out of the house at first, that = normal". Yeah, riiiight....... Gene Butler, The Firebird Stove, Fireplace, & Irrigation Specialists Since 1977 1808 Espinacitas Street Santa Fe, NM 87505 phone:(505) 983-5264 fax:(505) 983-4195 www.thefirebird.com