Hearthlist Digest #56 - Monday, November 17, 1997 Instructions for the masses... by Craig Issod <[email protected]> El Nino and other thoughts by Christie Martindale <[email protected]> Vent-Free Odors by Craig Issod <[email protected]>
(back) Subject: Instructions for the masses... From: Craig Issod <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:53:22 -0400 There has been very little interesting talk on this list lately. Some have complained that it's went downhill since I relinquished control of this list to you, our dear members. I wholeheartedly agree, and surely had hoped that ALL of you had a little more to say. As it is, less than 10% of you have EVER posted anything on this forum. I would hope you all have something more to share with me or each other. The revolution IS here, but if you are just a spectator it might pass you by..and it won't hear what you have to say! Now, a few points about the list.... Yes, you can unsubscribe easily without asking me, just by clicking the unsubscribe header in the header of this message...or by simply sending email to the address: [email protected] with the words: unsubscribe hearthlist IN THE SUBJECT OF THE MESSAGE Or, you can simply email to me at my personal email address, [email protected]. You cannot subscribe to the list in any way other than a personal email to me, despite the "subscribe" link in the header. This is because every member of this list must be qualified previous to subscribing. Oh, and please, when you are responding to another post, don't quote the ENTIRE MESSAGE OR DIGEST just to add one or two lines of your own dialog. Simply cut out the relevant sentence or paragraph and respond to that...or do something like: ----begin example____ On 11/5/97, Craig made a comment reflecting "The ethics (or lack of) modern business" My opinion on that subject is that blah, blah, blah, and we should all play golf all day long, and the heck with modern business. We'd all be healthy and attractive if we spent our days in such pursuits. After all, as they said in the movie "Wall Street", how many Yachts can one water ski behind? ----end example..... Get it? Instead of quoting the entire last emails, a short summary lets people know what you are talking about. Also, to post to the list, simply send a message to [email protected] - You must be writing from the EXACT same email address that you originally subscribed from. If it is different, the list will not accept your post. Please inform me if you have any problems posting. OK, so go to it. I'm glad to provide the server computer and forum to host this list, but the comments and discussion are supposed to come from all of you. ------------------------------------------------------ Craig Issod HearthNet at http://www.hearth.com [email protected] Everything your Hearth Desires ------------------------------------------------------ Buddha says "avoid error" ------------------------------------------------------
(back) Subject: El Nino and other thoughts From: "Christie Martindale" <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:58:54 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BCF393.3B9517A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El Nino is Awesome! =20 I love El Nino! People are going nuts in antcipation of a nasty winter. = Sales are way up. We are finding that it's really hard to get pellet = vent and DuraLiner for masonry flues. Every supplier we call is = "waiting for a truck". We've got back orders everywhere and so far El = Nino hasn't hit. I wish that the weather will hold off until Febuary or = so. =20 =20 Have an interesting question. I have a customer who wants to put an = anti-downdraft cap on a ZC flue system. I haven't had a chance to check = out the listings. Does any one know if it's okay (ie any anti down = draft cap) listed to work with thermo syphon double wall? I know I can = use them on air cooled and Solid Pack Class A 103 HT All Fuel Chimneys, = but don't know if I can use them on ZC chimeny. =20 =20 I also have a customer who needs a blower for her Preway fireplace. Way = before my time! Any suggestions? =20 Christie Martindale Bishop Woodstove "Bringing Fire to Your Life" ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BCF393.3B9517A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>El Nino is Awesome!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I love El Nino! People are = going nuts in=20 antcipation of a nasty winter. Sales are way up. We are = finding that=20 it's really hard to get pellet vent and DuraLiner for masonry = flues. Every=20 supplier we call is "waiting for a truck". We've got = back orders=20 everywhere and so far El Nino hasn't hit. I wish that the weather = will=20 hold off until Febuary or so. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Have an interesting question. = I have a=20 customer who wants to put an anti-downdraft cap on a ZC flue = system. I=20 haven't had a chance to check out the listings. Does any one know = if it's=20 okay (ie any anti down draft cap) listed to work with thermo syphon = double=20 wall? I know I can use them on air cooled and Solid Pack Class A = 103 HT=20 All Fuel Chimneys, but don't know if I can use them on ZC chimeny. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I also have a customer who needs a = blower for=20 her Preway fireplace. Way before my time! Any=20 suggestions?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Christie Martindale</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Bishop Woodstove</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><EM>"Bringing Fire to Your=20 Life"</EM></FONT></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BCF393.3B9517A0--
(back) Subject: Vent-Free Odors From: Craig Issod <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:06:08 -0400 Many of the air-quality problems with Vent-Free can be traced to other factors within the customers homes. We noticed that when we stained the front doors of our shop, the place smelled like kerosene for weeks afterwards whenever the Vent-Free was burning. I recently received the following email: I bought the (name deleted), ventless stove. I am really not satisfied with it. When burning it makes my eyes burn. I was wondering if I can convert this stove to a vent stove. If I can, please tell me how to do it. My answer to the gentleman was: Cannot be converted..however, you may want to have your installation checked out...I've had other stoves that had small gas leaks, etc when the burner was turned on...this gas mixes with the regular output and can give headaches, etc Also, if you have painted or stained something in your home recently, this may affect it. His response: I have painted and varnished. I just bought the home and repainted and varnished everywhere. So, another problem partially solved. I say partially, because he won't be returning his stove to the dealer...but he still might have to wait a long while before his stove gives him satisfaction. Any of the more technical minded folks on this forum have any input on this type of situation? Namely, if these odors are burning eyes, giving headaches, etc. - how bad is this for a body (physically)? Are there any studies being done on the use of vent-frees in real world situations such as this? ------------------------------------------------------ Craig Issod HearthNet at http://www.hearth.com [email protected] Everything your Hearth Desires ------------------------------------------------------ Buddha says "avoid error" ------------------------------------------------------