Hearthlist Digest #279 - Monday, March 22, 1999 Re: Damper Stop by "by way of Craig Issod" <[email protected]> Damper Stop by "AIMsweep" <[email protected]> Re: Hearthlist Digest #278 - 03/21/99 by "John Billwiller" <[email protected]> Repair Schematic - Pellet Stove by "Phil Sandhop" <[email protected]>
(back) Subject: Re: Damper Stop From: [email protected] (by way of Craig Issod) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:40:42 -0400 the damper stop is to vent the pilot, if you turn on the logs and do not open the damper the log set will soot the room and do the monoxide thing. Where we live/work/ attempt to run a hearth retail shop. Some building inspectors are requiring that the damper be clamped in the open position or be removed or be removed and glass doors installed or one inspector told a customer that he would not pass the job unless the damper was WELDED open. Boy I hope when I grow up I know more than AGA, U.L., AGA of C, U.L. of C., etc. etc.
(back) Subject: Damper Stop From: "AIMsweep" <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:28:57 -0400 > Damper Stop > 1. To vent the pilot? > 2. To allow for safety of venting if someone turned the set on when the > damper was not opened. > I suspect #2 is the strongest point but will try to find out more. > So, experts in gas land? What is the real reason for the damper clamp? > Thanks. According to the Gas Code Book...(Ontario Gas Utilization Code) section 5.25.4 (c) relating to automatic flue dampers "......shall be designed or constructed to provide a fixed minimum opening of 20% and shall be interlocked with the burner control system......" Section 5.26.1 relating to manual flue dampers..They shall not be used.(a) with a residential appliance or (b)with a commercial or industrial appliance unless the damper is designed or constructed to provide a fixed minimum opening of 20%.... It does go on in that section about making sure the damper falls completely OPEN in case of failure so we will have to assume that the damper clamp is to ensure that IF the damper should fall closed during the ignition and burning of the gas appliance then the damper will NOT close fully and thus stay open the 20% required. Vince and Yvette Aube AIM Chimney and Hearth
(back) Subject: Re: Hearthlist Digest #278 - 03/21/99 From: John Billwiller <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:28:57 -0400 ---------------------------------------------------- > >So, experts in gas land? What is the real reason for the damper clamp? I'm not an expert in Gas-Land but I am a Licensed LPG installer. It would seem to me that as LNG is lighter than air, the purpose of the damper stop would be to release any LNG leaked by a faulty shutoff - thereby preventing a potential catastrophic situation - as in a living room filled with LNG just waiting for the thermostat to say IGNITE. These are just my thoughts - as I was somewhat downhearted at the lack of input to the hearthlist, as you indicated you were, I felt duty bound to at least offer some input. Whether you choose to use it or not doesn't matter, I have contributed to the greater good. On a similar topic, I haven't seen much in the way of a progress report on the parts availability/documentation/info idea you were talking about.Actually I was a little confused about the goals you were thinking of. Were you thinking of this being of benefit to the consumer in a non-technical way - a forum where the consumer could access info to talk intelligently to whomever was attempting to repair/service the heat source for the home. I was thinking more along the lines of a 'support group' for us out here in the field, who may run across a 'new/strange/unfamiliar' unit that has no documentation available from the owner but a group that we could access without having to pose a question to you and hopefully someone will actually get around to reading the hearthlist and responding in a reasonable time after you have ' vetted ' the request as being something you feel needs asking. I'm not going to apologize for offering suggestions, but if I have inadver- tently offended you for stating my views, I tender an apology. Once again, thanks for the Forum. John B.
(back) Subject: Repair Schematic - Pellet Stove From: Phil Sandhop <[email protected]> (by way of Craig Issod) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:48:54 -0400 ---> Anyone know about this brand? PLease answer to the list I'm looking for information on a pellet stove. The brand is Emerald, and the decal on the back tells that it was manufactured by Turbo Fire Stoves, 18931 59th Ave NE, Arlington WA, 98233. They are apparently out of business. Do you have any information on this company, such as you do with current manufacturers? Or do you have any tips on how I might obtain a schematic diagram of the control board? The circuit board had to be repaired, but it continues to have problems. In order to complete repairs, I need to get the schematic diagram. I could replace the control as an option, but wouldn't know where to turn for that, any clues? Other information that might be helpful: Model 2001-BW, Serial No. 09901. It also says it was tested by Northwest Testing Laboratory (NTL), of Portland OR, which I can't find information about either. It's NTL Report # is 325712. Thanks, Phil Sandhop [email protected]