Enviro P3

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image.jpg Just got an up close and personal with this gem today. It's the mini redone. Lots of cast, 50lb hopper, comes in powder coated colors and a fancy new control board with modulated comfort settings so it will maintain comfort levels by ramping up and down without the need for a TSTAT, though one could be used. Most likely going to MSRP at the same price as the existing mini.. $1500 less than the anything else in its class. Very nice unit. Very nice. No more damper rod, controls are in the hopper,
 
Lovely stove. Will it replace the mini, or will both still be produced? When do they expect to put it on the market?
 
Is it still a top feeder?
 
Will replace the mini available next fall. Still top feed.

Will your old Mini be on sale? Cannot sell it for the price of the new model right?
 
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Nice looking stove,
 
You know, not too impressed with the mini hoping for a new relationship with the P3
you used to like the mini what happened, you said this about the mini a few months ago

very impressed so far! ran it on 3 all night and woke up to house 70 degress with 3/4 full hopper. And it holds an entire bag unlike the Italian job. And quiet!
 
You know, not too impressed with the mini hoping for a new relationship with the P3

True, I have a few customers that cannot run the mini on low heat levels because it dies out. That is the major complaint. I upgraded one customer to the new control panel. That is supposed to help. If not then a large Petal Impeller blade on the exhaust blower should do the trick. :) Right?
 
Yeah you know I had some good success early on with the mini and then I switched to regular old pellets, the kind most people use, and the performance was marginal at best. It had poor performance and always needed cleaning, using top grade softies it was acceptable but beyond that the thing wasn't much of heater IMHO. I suppose that was the real test, right?
 
Yeah you know I had some good success early on with the mini and then I switched to regular old pellets, the kind most people use, and the performance was marginal at best. It had poor performance and always needed cleaning, using top grade softies it was acceptable but beyond that the thing wasn't much of heater IMHO. I suppose that was the real test, right?


A real Enviro dealer wouldn't dish a decent stove or expect M55 performance out of the mini. And should know that "a high ash pot is available for high ash crap fuel". Recommended for fuels higher then 0.06% ash content. Maybe you should a sold Hormones.

Pluggin a stove one minute and dishing it the next is the norm from you. Just like the other stove brand/line you praised here once upon a time! So next year you'll dish this one too?
 
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Nope, I'm gonna defend myself here. Look the mini is a good stove. Great? I think not. I'm not looking for M55 performance, just looking to have the thing turn out some heat with some predictability. It's actually doing a hell of a lot better now with Lacretes. Have to say I kind of like it again. Maine Wood Pellets? Aye aye aye...not very good. The thing rattles like crazy too and pellets hang up in the hopper. Needs tools to clean.... On the whole...it gets a 6 out of 10 with regular pellets and maybe a 7 with softies.
 
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Some people are unrealistic and never happy....
C'mon I'm not allowed to complain? Jeez tough crowd. Look I'm burning the thing in my house. I'm testing it out. Was easy to love it after what I went through with my Ecoteck, but it falls short, what can I say. It wasn't the burn pot that was the issue, it was the the overall versatility of the unit...but I had to use it for 4 months to figure it out. Didn't blow me away. We will see if the P3 is any better
 
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C'mon I'm not allowed to complain? Jeez tough crowd. Look I'm burning the thing in my house. I'm testing it out. Was easy to love it after what I went through with my Ecoteck, but it falls short, what can I say. It wasn't the burn pot that was the issue, it was the the overall versatility of the unit...but I had to use it for 4 months to figure it out. Didn't blow me away. We will see if the P3 is any better

Can you run that Mini on Heat Level 1 for a long time?
 
The Mini is a quiet little stove but is not a huge heater either. Good pellets make it a better heater, with Spruce Pointe pellets, our little Mini thought it was a Maxx at the store. I still like the Empress too, just a nice looking stove. The new Quad MV E2 should be on everybody's list to check out too. Stay warm everybody, good pellets is always the answer.
 
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Can you run that Mini on Heat Level 1 for a long time?
I have a mini a, run it on #1 overnight when its not real cold never had any problems. My evl is only 12 but I chose to use 4" exhaust don't know if that is a factor. Been running it over a year haven't heard any rattles
 
Can you run that Mini on Heat Level 1 for a long time?
Yeah, I can, but it seems like there is a big swing in the feed settings. I have the unit direct vented straight out, draft all the way shut and the combustion trim all the way shut and I'm still over the recommended WC. So, on low the fire seems to be over powered...but if I trim up the feed it will keep going just fine. Problem being, I'd like not to have to set trim levels according to the desired heat settings. Oh, and I should mention, this is with soft pellets. I guess my biggest issue with the unit that I have is that it seems to require a lot of calibration from one pellet to the next. Another peeve, the control panel is dark and down low on the side of the unit, my wife often turns the blower off inadvertently while trying to lower the heat settings...and cause the thing really doesn't blow that hard to begin with, its hard to notice.

I suppose that's something somewhat unique to Enviro, they have so many units that are in production that run very much different from each other. Chances are, if you buy an Enviro unit you will get use to your specific stove and be none the less wiser and enjoy it very much...but as someone who plays with many all the time...the differences between each are somewhat highlighted in my use.

So here's the thing though, I LOVE the Empress freestanding. It uses the same control board as the mini, albeit a different program....ah...and you know what? I just thought of that!!!! I betcha my Mini is set on the wrong damn program. Don, whats the program for the Mini? I should know this, hopefully I'll remember to look later.
 
Yeah, I can, but it seems like there is a big swing in the feed settings. I have the unit direct vented straight out, draft all the way shut and the combustion trim all the way shut and I'm still over the recommended WC. So, on low the fire seems to be over powered...but if I trim up the feed it will keep going just fine. Problem being, I'd like not to have to set trim levels according to the desired heat settings. Oh, and I should mention, this is with soft pellets. I guess my biggest issue with the unit that I have is that it seems to require a lot of calibration from one pellet to the next. Another peeve, the control panel is dark and down low on the side of the unit, my wife often turns the blower off inadvertently while trying to lower the heat settings...and cause the thing really doesn't blow that hard to begin with, its hard to notice.

I suppose that's something somewhat unique to Enviro, they have so many units that are in production that run very much different from each other. Chances are, if you buy an Enviro unit you will get use to your specific stove and be none the less wiser and enjoy it very much...but as someone who plays with many all the time...the differences between each are somewhat highlighted in my use.

So here's the thing though, I LOVE the Empress freestanding. It uses the same control board as the mini, albeit a different program....ah...and you know what? I just thought of that!!!! I betcha my Mini is set on the wrong damn program. Don, whats the program for the Mini? I should know this, hopefully I'll remember to look later.

Interesting. Are you going to the convention in Sturbridge MA next month?

The Mini should be program 1 using the new control panel. That is what I used when I upgraded one of my customers.

See my pics of the upgrade
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads...mods-in-and-the-bugs-out.123269/#post-1653062

Control panel instructions
Programs
Program 1: same as 3000 circuit
board parameter – for all pellet stoves
with the exception of units listed with
programs #2, 3, 4. – One flash
Program 2: Convection fan button
disabled – Empress FS – two flashes.
Program 3: 60,000 Btu feed rate –
Maxx – three flashes
Program 4: 50,000 Btu feed rate –
Maxx – four flashes
Note: To achieve 70,000 Btu, for Maxx
only, you need to trim up the feed rate
on program 3.
 
Who is going to be the first to try the new 4840 from USSC?

Looks much safer than the old Window Mount pellet stove! Maybe they redeamed themselves on this one. I will have to talk to my RSM about it!
 
Looks much safer than the old Window Mount pellet stove! Maybe they redeamed themselves on this one. I will have to talk to my RSM about it!
Do not have a need for one but am interested in the quality,would be good for some friends,let me know.
 
Hello! This is my first post here! I'm buying a new house and want to get a pellet stove. I need a small footprint model, I prefere the european look over the classic stove style and need not much power since it's mostly a secondary heater in the house. Anyway.

I was provided with a preliminary brochure about the upcoming P3. I thought I'd share it with you. It's in french, I can translate whatever is not clear for you! Cheers!
 

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Does the P3 have the typical 3 inch exhaust outlet? As small of a unit, it would probably be fine with 3 inch venting. Are dealers able to get the P3 in the U.S. currently?

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